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Thread: D44 Hubs... On a D30.... is it do-able?

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    D44 Hubs... On a D30.... is it do-able?

    so here is my thought....

    I need to replace the D30 unit bearings this winter... they cost about 200$ each. I replaced the last set 2 years abo which makes me think that I am gonna have to do this again someday... like 2 years from now.


    So the wheels start turning and I start to think that it can't be that difficult to adapt an outer manual locking hub to a D30. Can it?

    I know you can buy the kits from warn for about 1000$ but why would you want to on a D30.

    So today I went to pick up a set of Locking hubs from a ford D44.

    looks like I have some work cut out for me.... but I think Its do able.

    any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak Flash View Post

    any thoughts?
    Build a waggy, and I can't wait to see what you come up with


    only thoughts really

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    I would love to build a waggy 44 and will. Just no budget to build it the way I would want to for a year or so.

    This should cost me less than 200$ + my time.

    I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to put the d44 brakes on it too.... I think so.

    if so that would be Killer....

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    What stub shaft?


    The 44 brakes are nicer

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    gonna be using the stock D44 stub shaft.

    gonna be interesting. I will have to figure out the amount of shift that I will need to center the u joint and make up the spacer...

    I think its gonna work good....

    I hope I can use the brakes... gonna cut up a couple of D30 knuckles and see if I can make it work.

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    just a thought, but can't you get cj dana 30 bits to fit?
    currently building a toyota. i'm sorry.

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    probably could... Never put too much thought that way.

    I took a warn conversion apart a week ago and found it to be using a ford spindle. thats why I went the way I did. doesn't look like I will have much difficulty with fitting the spindle and axle.... I think the challange will be surrounding the brakes. would be great to be able to use the D44 disks and calipers they are monsterous compared to the D30.

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    I had a friend tell me that it is possible to rebuild the earlier YJ unit bearings. NAPA sells the actual bearings that go inside the wheel bearing. I have tried looking up any other info online but had no luck.

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    ^Hmmm.... never heard of that... anyone? Sarge? you've been around for forever... ever seen one?

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    yep can do.
    the bearring is 35 bucks and you need a press or be really crafty with a hammer or vice.

    i can get complete yj unit bearings for $60 new

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    i have access to a big press at work, care to explain the process?

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    ^ save it for your own thread...

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    i think jak is on the right track.

    using 44 spindle parts on a d30.

    there is going to be 3 big hurdles to overcome

    1 getting the turning center of the axlejoint on the balljoint centerline.

    2 finding the right size ujoint to use the d44 outer axleshaft

    3 fastning the 44 caliper bracket to the 44 spindle and 30 knuckle combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak Flash View Post
    ^Hmmm.... never heard of that... anyone? Sarge? you've been around for forever... ever seen one?
    I think i've found the bulletproof setup for you Jack, doing some research now for it, will let u know tomorrow.
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    call alex AKA jeepman, he knows all about it.
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    So you wanna upgrade to manual locking hubs, bigger srtonger spindle assemblies, tapered bearings for strength and price, using a beefy outer axle and still retain yer 5x4.5 bolt pattern, use knuckles that wont screw up yer steering geometry, upgrade to beefier brakes and do it on the cheap eh?


    hehehehe, yer right, you can.....

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    what about using all the parts from a ford ranger/exploder? they have the same wheel bolt pattern, and some have manual hubs. they are a dana 35, but i hear that the parts are as big as dana 44 parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igotafrigginjeep View Post
    Bill Vista did a hybrid HP30/44 axle on Pirate...check the tech section...
    Saw that sweet job... but I'm saving that kind of work for something other than a d30.

    Probably will begin to build one soon enough. I'm just looking make my own rebuilds for the D30. when I part with the front axle I'm sure I will be able to sell them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy YJ View Post
    call alex AKA jeepman, he knows all about it.
    I will send him a PM. gonna wait and see how things go first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayheminc View Post
    So you wanna upgrade to manual locking hubs, bigger srtonger spindle assemblies, tapered bearings for strength and price, using a beefy outer axle and still retain yer 5x4.5 bolt pattern, use knuckles that wont screw up yer steering geometry, upgrade to beefier brakes and do it on the cheap eh?


    hehehehe, yer right, you can.....
    Yup the more I think about it the more it pieces together. first order of business.... how do you put that.... Ummmm WTF....

    for god sakes wut am I thinking....?

    LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by buckinbullock View Post
    what about using all the parts from a ford ranger/exploder? they have the same wheel bolt pattern, and some have manual hubs. they are a dana 35, but i hear that the parts are as big as dana 44 parts.
    I heard that but I also heard that they were more of an auto locking mechanism that were regularly replaced with manual lockers. essentially doing what I am.

    dunno for sure but I think I'm on the right path.... should be trick.

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    I'm very interested to see where this goes please keep me in the loop, take lots of pictures, and do a howto! Cheers!
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    If you need to take a look or need any measurments off a cj d30 with locking hubs let me know, got one in the garage.
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